ACL’s Jim Wallace on gay marriage and logic

Brigadier Jim Wallace (ret.1) of the Australian Christian Lobby, presumably feeling the need to get adventurous, has tried his hand at logic:

The ACT Education Minister was pictured last week opening an “anti-homophobia” art display at a Canberra school.

So far so good, everyone is against homophobia, but there is a fine line between that and the promotion of the lifestyle, especially for parents of school-aged children.

Minister Barr was pictured with a “work of art” in poster form that included the statements “love is not dependent on gender, what’s your agenda?”

I am sure that with all our empathy for people who may consider themselves inevitably gay, few parents would want to see this statement presented as truth to their children.

For the overwhelming majority of us romantic love is dependent on gender. Few parents will want their children to be told, as this poster implies, that friendship or mateship inevitably lead as they mature to love. That the logical conclusion of this illogical proposition is that a sexual relationship may follow naturally from friendship with school mates of the same sex.

Oh, Jim.

Yes, a sexual relationship may indeed follow naturally from some friendships among school mates, of either sex. In fact, I’m given to believe that most people who enjoy sexual relationships do so with people they have previously been friends with. It would be decidedly creepy to prefer the alternative.

As far as I know, however, gay sex follows no more assuredly from friendship than does straight sex. Jim, for I know you read my blog avidly, if your experience is different, do leave a comment.

Few parents will want their children to be told, as this poster implies, that friendship or mateship inevitably lead as they mature to love

Camp Jim

Jim Wallace

Well, no. No-one should want kids to be told that friendship inevitably leads to love. Because it’s bollocks. I’m sure, over the centuries, many a gay chap has ended up in an asexual marriage with his closest female friend because of the stigma gleefully promoted by Jimbo’s cult. But nowadays, love is not dependent on gender, you see. Gender can be as wonderfully irrelevant to love as it is to friendship. Compulsion has been removed, not imposed.

But Jim disagrees with me. Accepting that relationships come in different varieties would apparently mean that gay love ‘inevitably’ follows from friendship. According to Jim, gender-restriction is the only thing stopping a man’s mateship with another man developing into love and (since that’s the topic at hand), marriage. And lovely, hot man-on-man sex.

Umm… did Jim just come out?

1No, it stands for… etc, etc.

8 Comments

  1. Posted December 2, 2011 at 22:51 | Permalink

    ‘I am sure that with all our empathy for people who may consider themselves inevitably gay, few parents would want to see this statement presented as truth to their children.’

    Actually, Jim, this particular parent would really like it if schools and government and churches and society generally told my children at every opportunity that whoever they are, they are loved and valued and respected.

    ‘For the overwhelming majority of us romantic love is dependent on gender.’

    It may appear that way, Jim, because about 90% of us were born heterosexual. But falling in love is no more dependent on gender for us than it is for anyone else. We simply are naturally attracted to the people of the opposite sex. We were made that way.

    There are certainly more of us, Jim, but in what way does that give us the right to impose relationships that suit our natural tendencies on a minority who do not happen to share them? I imagine that if the situation were reversed and heterosexuals were in the minority, you’d find yourself lobbying pretty vigorously for the right to form an opposite-sex union. Unless, Dave really has uncovered a little-known secret after all…. ;)

  2. doug Steley
    Posted December 2, 2011 at 23:03 | Permalink

    I am almost certain that but for his religious beliefs Jim could swing either way.

    He is a “Man’s man” and obviously prefers the company of men.

    It does make you wonder about what his real desires are and what he does to repress them.

  3. crazyHorse
    Posted December 8, 2011 at 15:01 | Permalink

    “For the overwhelming majority of us romantic love is dependent on gender.”

    No, it’s not, Jim. It is generally only dependent on the gender a person is attracted to.

    “That the logical conclusion of this illogical proposition is that a sexual relationship may follow naturally from friendship with school mates of the same sex.”

    Err, No again, Jim. The proposition by Jim that ” .. a sexual relationship may follow naturally from friendship with school mates of the same sex.” proposes either
    1/ friendship leads to homosexuality, or
    2/ friendship naturally leads to sex (with someone, not necessarily the same-sex friend).

    Jim Wally-Ace strikes again. You didn’t fight for logic either, did you , Jim?

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